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Post by cooner1 on Nov 28, 2009 10:50:11 GMT -5
since starting my business i've spent alot of coin on profile knives. i've got a veil profile grinder on the way at this time. buying knives cuts into the profits quite a bit on smaller jobs. which is where the bread and butter is. now instead of paying $25 to $35 per inch for knives i can buy the steel for about $3.00 per inch and grind them myself. not to mention being able to sharpen the knives i already have. sure there is labor involved but it has to be cheaper to do it myself. now i can charge a modest price that hopefully the customer can live with. just last week i received a pair of ds-4 knives from woodmaster. they cost me $69.00 which included $15.00 shipping. there is 2" of steel combined. big complex knives over 5 or 6" knives i'll still buy but the smaller profiles are going to be done in house from now on.
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Post by justin on Nov 28, 2009 20:28:07 GMT -5
the steel that your going to get is is already heat treated? It won't use as many grinding wheels if you can rough grind it soft and then heat treat it and come back and touch up the profile. I think this grinder will get you by but not make the best qualty profiles, this is just a guess i've never seen one before. I read another post about this grinder see attachment: www.forestryforum.com/board/index.php?topic=37314.0i would like to know how it turns out for you being able to grind profiles would be great!! |
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Post by cooner1 on Nov 28, 2009 22:42:18 GMT -5
yeah i'am going to use standard m2 hss corrugated back steel. i've never seen one of these machines either. but buying one of the big machines is out of the question. it ain't in the cards. one thing i'am going to do is set up a fluid tray with filter and pump and use cutting fluid with it. i think that would help in the quality of the grind. we'll see what happens in a couple weeks.
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Post by cooner1 on Dec 11, 2009 18:24:50 GMT -5
made my first profile knives today and they turned out pretty good. they actually match the sample piece of base the customer gave me. the knives are 1 1/2" long open ended ogee of sorts for baseboard. i ran about 100lf of red oak with them and the base is fine. just like everything else, it'll take some practice to get it down pat. it took me probably 1/2 hour to actually grind the profiles. about the same making the template. and $9.00 in steel. and when they need sharpened i won't have to send them out.
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Post by boardmaker on Jun 2, 2010 15:38:15 GMT -5
Cooner1,
Just wondering if you would do a followup on the veil grinder? I'm curious at how well it works?
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Post by cooner1 on Jun 2, 2010 16:13:07 GMT -5
works pretty good. a little slow, but for the price it's ok. need to hog off the waste with a larger grinder, then chuck it up on the veil grinder and finish it off. i would like to see a couple other grits of wheels become available for it. right now the only wheel i can find for it is the grit it comes with. i still order the larger profiles in from wmoore profiles. i use the veil for the smaller knives and to touch up my existing knives. being able to take out a knick mid run is worth alot. remove the head from the moulder and chuck it and the template up and sharpen. easy as 1,2,3,. i'am going to add a coolant tank/tray and pump from grizzly to mine in the not to distant future.
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Post by cooner1 on Dec 24, 2010 11:01:06 GMT -5
finally the little veil grinder is getting used a good bit. my nephew has been grinding profile knives for me for both my weinig moulder and the woodmaster. it probably takes him an hour or 2 to make the template and grind the knives. he has the patience to do it to. i don't. we weigh them on a digital scale and balance them and they work fine. a couple things i still need to get done is the fluid pump and recovery tray and get an assortment of different grit wheels. i do believe i'll start ordering the templates as i need them. merry christmas all.
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Post by ecolahihue on Apr 26, 2019 9:30:23 GMT -5
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Post by ozafexo on Apr 26, 2019 11:07:05 GMT -5
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